In Response to the Blatant Spew of Nonsense


Well this post in response to http://armyofcp.com/2012/02/02/coup-detat-3/#more-42534

As you can see by the title, I think that that post is just nonsense, restated in many words. Why? Well I’ll explain.

*FLIPPER AND KEN, THIS POST IS FOR YOU GUYS (and EK)*

Since I figured that this wouldn’t be allowed on the ACP site, and I’d also like to leave the ACP site and chat outta this, I’ll post my stuff on my own site where it won’t be touched.

Pre-Note: Flen = Flipper & Ken

While this entire post is equally as important, if you do not want to read all of it you can skip to the different sections and read what you want. I suggest that ALL soldiers read the “What YOU can do about this” part along with voting on the polls.

TABLE OF CONTENTS:

1. Why the Ultimatum/What I already did

2. The Real Point of Flen’s Post

3. What YOU can do about this

4. Stew/Lack of Backbones

5. Fox

6. Why Tal should be 3ic

7. Why I asked for the demotions

8. About the coup specifics

9. Response to Minor Incidents

10. How To Prevent Stuff Like This From Happening

11. Inside Stuff About Flen

12. Polls

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1

Over a week and a half ago I thought about just how inactive some of the owners were and decided to find out Flip’s opinion on that. After having a nice talk with him, I wrote down some of what he had said in a bulleted list. This was the SUGGESTIONS list that they had asked that I do instead in their post. Everything I had written down came from what Flipper himself said or agreed with when I suggested in the conversation. These suggestions were passed onto Ken and then nothing else was done.

Yet, after a week, no progress had even been made. So I inquired about it again. And guess what, nothing. So I thought to myself “hmm, they seem to want to do something, they at least acknowledge it, yet they are still doing nothing about it?” So I said something and gave them some more time. After a few days I realized that they weren’t even trying which made me realize that an ultimatum was needed.

The Ultimatum is a call to improvement for the leaders Ken and Flipper. It is a demand that they keep the owners active, that they put some pressure on them to stay active, and they reprimand the leaders that are not meeting the standards set. Obviously that has not been done, even though it had been agreed upon by Ken and Flipper whenever I’ve talked to them.

An owner rank is a privilege. You get to be editor on the site, owner on the chat, lead the soldiers, and can participate in promos and more exciting stuff. However the owners spot gets congested, sometimes there are many people who should be promoted but there is no more room for them in the owner ranks. This is why the owners MUST be active and put effort into their work. Otherwise, what makes them more deserving than the lower-ranked soldiers who are waiting for their chance, those lower rank soldiers who are more active, and more enthusiastic and will work harder? Nothing, the inactive owners aren’t more deserving.

When you become a leader, or even an owner, this doesn’t just become a game but a business. You must manage your business with a strong hand, demoting the inactive ones who would hurt the army and promoting the more active that would benefit the army. You cannot bring in grudges, you cannot think of friendships.

2

The real point of Flen’s post was this, if I was to overthrow both of them right then and there they were hoping that it would convince people to support them and be against whatever I did. There was obviously some truth in their post and there was some good points, but other than those 5 or 6 lines it was mainly just repeated charges against myself. While they did acknowledge that something had to be done about the inactive leaders, it was AT THE BOTTOM. The entire post, which was suppose to be made against the Ultimatum first, and then myself, didn’t even address the problems that were pointed out in my ultimatum. They said they would change the owner ranks in “a few days” but no reason as to why this hadn’t happened two weeks ago.

I’m sorry but I’m find if you persecute me for actions I’ve made but when you try to persecute me for my opinion, for stuff I’ll post on facebook or my OWN personal site, you’ve crossed the line. I have the right to my opinion, to free speech, and free press. I can write whatever the hell I want on my own site, on my own facebook, and no matter if its my opinion or if its true you can suck it. Yet at least 1/3 of the post was based off of that material.

The first picture of facebook, that was taken during the beginning of xmas break I believe, if not earlier. It was discussed privately but not hidden. Understand, these convos happen all the time, yet nothing is actually carried out. As you can see, Flen was still in place even after a months so the conversation itself becomes just that, a conversation. Its called ranting, I do it all the time on CPAC. I have the right to say whatever I want, whether it be true or not, just because I want to. Obviously this doesn’t apply to direct insults, blasphemy, etc.. but you get my point.

But apparently, just like 1984, my opinions cannot even be kept in private but should not even be expressed at all. Obviously there are some problems with this and I refuse to adhere by it. Flen’s post was just a support rally for themselves rather than an informative piece, it actually made me laugh.

3

What can you do about it? Well for starters you can express your opinion about the leadership. Do so in the comments here, do so on chat, do so to Ken and Flipper. If you don’t want to do it publicly, email me (acp.shab@gmail.com) and I’ll tell them for you, I’m just that nice of a guy. It can be bad, good, or even just neutral. In fact, I even included a form just for you:

Note: If you send me an email, your name will NOT be shared or associated with your opinion unless you specify that you would like it to be.

You can tell Ken and Flipper that you’re tired of their slacking, tired of them not doing their job. You can tell them that no, you think that there is a point to this madness. That they should be looking towards the future, should be keeping the army strong, keeping the owners active.

4

I was not aware that I was part of the Stew incident at all. Yes, I mentioned him in the facebook picture, but other than that I don’t recall ever bringing him up again. I never expressed, or even had, the opinion that he should have been demoted. I was just as surprised as everyone else when he was demoted, I just assumed that there was some reason that Flipper & Ken weren’t sharing with the public.

I can assure you all, I never even mentioned Stew to Flip or Ken. I see no “Flip and Ken should be overthrown” in that conversation and I know it was never mentioned further. His name was mentioned in the statement because the success of the coup would be dependent on the opinions of the 2ics & 3ics. If they supported the coup, it’d be a lot easier for the troops. His name is in no way related to any conversation saying that he should be demoted.

I would say that maybe Ken and Flipper got it confused, but come on, its pretty obvious. Even trying to blame Stew’s demotion on me is a insult. If Flipper and Ken though that I was saying that Stew should be demoted, they’re lying through their teeth. They are to blame for the demotion and it is further evidence of their weakness as leaders. They should have backbones and should question something if they disagree. If they thought that I wanted the demotion of Stew they should have said something instead of just doing it and not even mentioning a thing because honestly, I had no clue they were “doing it for me.”

Honestly, I believe that the idea that they were doing it for me is just an excuse to get anyone who didn’t support Stew’s demotion to dislike me and also an excuse to use that picture. Seems to me that Flipper and Ken will do the same when demoting Klug or Slider, they’re blame it on me while knows that it was both their responsibility and it was their opinion to do so.

5

I’ve been told and I’ve realized that my support of Fox doesn’t always help here. Therefore, I will not be expressing my opinion and will be staying neutral in politics relating to Fox.

6

Let me tell you a story. Last weekend xat glitched out and active chats were able to be bought. The ACP chat was bought and reset. At that point, chat become chaotic. No one knew what to do and there was an invasion or something currently happening. Ken was on but he was currently freaking out, asking me in pc what was going on, what to do, etc…. I then proceeded to tell everyone to move to another of my chats (vlarules) until I could find out what was going on.

Tal at that point took the lead and got everyone to the vlarules chat. He then led the army on CP. He wasn’t ranked (he had been asking for a rank for about a week) nor was he even asked to lead. While Ken, the ranked leader, was freaking out Tal was being the real leader and keeping the army together.

I have also seen Tal leading throughout the week including taking charge of a battle that the owners failed to show for. I’m not sure the results of that battle but it seems like we probably won. So where were the real leaders, the real owners? Who knows, but they weren’t there.

So Tal has shown leadership skills, has experience, has shown enthusiasm, ambition and initiative. He used to be a rule-breaking mod/member (not abusive, but rather just inappropriate) but has greatly gotten much better in the last half year. I think its time we give him a chance as 3ic. Its a chance, if he doesn’t do good then another person can be given that rank and allowed to prove themselves.

7

As I have said at least once, the owners have failed to keep the owner ranks active. Actually, they seem to be the slowest at removing the inactive leaders which can be seen with both Bob and Bunker.

Klug: Klug’s one of the smartest guys here, always has ideas for improvement. However, while he is capable of being a 3ic, once he received that rank he became very inactive. This is an obvious choice.

Slider: I’ve re-thought my previous opinions and changed them. I think that Slider should be demoted to 3ic. Slider has not been as active or as  outstanding as the owners. I believe he needs something to look forward to, to work towards. As 3ic he would be working towards 2ic again which I believe is acceptable.

Inactive owners means a weak army, and that isn’t good.

8

The coup, a term made famous when the Boomer instituted the first one by getting rid of Meat. Since then its been used as a tool of fear and we’ve actually attempted to make rules about it. In reality, there are no rules. I know, the nation page says that only Oagal or Boomer can coup. Okay, I’ll follow that. But here’s the thing, just because Oagal or Boomer coup the leader doesn’t mean it’ll work.

The whole idea of a coup is that the soldiers support the new leader(s) better than the old ones. This being said, anyone can coup the leaders. All it takes is an uprising of the soldiers to do so. We put so much focus on the site and the chat when in reality, without the soldiers they are nothing.

This is the reason why I ask you, the soldiers, your opinion on Flen and what I have stated in this post because if you guys agree or are unhappy, your voices should be heard and changes should be made. This is YOUR army, have it run like you want it.

9

I don’t remember what that post with the title “Flipper you’re mentally incapable” but I don’t see it being a problem unless I had made the post public. Unfortunately, no further comment since I don’t feel like going and finding this post, it really isn’t that important.

As for not banning Sam. First of all, we all aren’t perfect. Given that it was just Sam spamming and me talking to myself, this was around 12 or 1 in the morning. Honestly, I probably didn’t notice.  I’m usually half asleep at that time or talking in pc, occasionally going to main to make a comment and then going back to pc/what I was working on.

Obviously I’m not perfect, but neither is anyone else. That doesn’t mean I don’t know what I’m saying.

As to Slider’s comment and my response, its due to the fact that he was not the only one that had made comments like that which is infuriating. He was just the one that included the “we don’t fully understand.” The post above, the one Boomer had written very well, explained in simple terms what SOPA was all about. Yes, we do not all understand the politics behind it, but if we read and listen we can understand what SOPA would be about and would do and what was being done to prevent it.

Slider’s comment made me feel like he was saying that no one, being kids, was smart enough to understand what was going on and should just ignore it and let someone else deal with it. Obviously that’s not the right way to do things.

10

Basically, make sure the important parts of running an army are taken care of and carried out. Keep the top ranks active. When you say you agree with something, actually do something about it. When inactive leaders are left in leadership ranks it creates a congestion and is unfair to the more deserving lower ranks.

11

Well, this isn’t going to be as insulting as it sounds. First of all, they have problems with communication which is a major part of running an army. There can’t be days or even a day before a response is heard on whether to go to war or what to do when faced with two important choices. I’d have suspected that this would have been fixed, both Flipper and Ken I believe have smartphones and if they put an email on it, that’d be a perfect way of communication.

I know, you’re expecting more stuff and for me to be more insulting but there’s really no point in throwing in distracting and unrelated stuff.

12

The point of these polls is to get a general idea of the soldiers’ opinions. Please vote on all of them.

~Shaboomboom

6 Responses

  1. Shab not every leader is great as you have shown but your opinions in this post have been crazy. You actually believe Tal can be 3ic you talk about how it is a privilege to be an owner rank making tal 3ic is like making eyes leader?!? “He used to be a rule-breaking mod/member (not abusive, but rather just inappropriate)” He Still IS! You think one action can change that(which probably has been changed), you are mistaken totally..

    ” You cannot bring in grudges, you cannot think of friendships.”
    Friends = Tal and Fox, Grudge= Flipper

    Shab there are more reasons I can go onto but I think you know you have done wrong, thinking your voice is the voice of the public opinion how wrong can you be your words are corrupt and simply I think you should just leave acp like you said you would..

  2. Tal has gotten much better with following the rules, as I said. I haven’t seen him swear, be banned, or be unmodded in a while now and I’ve always kept an eye on him.

    Are you ignoring the fact that he did EXACTLY what a leader should be doing in a time of crisis while the real leader freaked out?

    I’m not saying Tal should be 3ic due to a friendship, but because he has exhibited the talents of an owner/leader without being asked to do so. That automatic response is what is intended on being drawn upon.

  3. The ACP is weaker now then ever before. Unless they get better, this is the end of them being powerful

  4. Frankly I think all our owner ranks are very active. I see them make the effort to get to battles, and just to be on chat, and talking to lower ranks :)

  5. I think it’s time to retire permantley *ono*

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